Nov 26, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Confirmed. Sending Supplies.
Guild: Big Domage Krewe [DoMe]
Profession: A/W
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More non-human Heroes please!
Lets face it, humans in RPGs are usually the most boring race you can have.
When MOX was released I loved the prospect of one more member in my multi-race party. Him being a golem was just icing.
But heck, it isn't all about my personal preference. Having Heroes of different races would allow ANet to easily tell us or hint at the future of these races, through (hopefully interesting) sidequests similar to MOX. And who isn't interested in the future of the Forgotten, Tengu, Dredge, or other major races in Tyria? I know some won't give a toss either way, but it would be nice to find out.(Especially for the Forgotten, lots of hubbub in the Desert in GW2 by the sounds of it, how do they react?)
I know the GW Devs have lots on their plate and something like this is pretty low priority and lots of work, but it would still be pretty nice to see them pay a bit more attention to some of the cool races inhabiting the world.
P.S. The following classes have only humans reps:
Mesmer
Necro
Assassin
Paragon
P.S.S. I'm not sure if these Heroes would be allowed for PvP, for the same reasons MOX isn't - height/bulk in particular.
Last edited by Rick Thene; Nov 26, 2008 at 02:57 AM // 02:57..
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Nov 26, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Guild: The Gecko Liberation Army
Profession: Me/
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I've been waiting for a Tengu hero ever since heroes were introduced! I know i'm not the only one who'd love to have a Tengu in their party. I could definitely see a Tengu hero being an assassin...
MOX coming out after it being so long since new content made me think it was possible there'd be more new heroes in future but I don't want to get my hopes up...
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Nov 26, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57
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#3
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2005
Profession: W/
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Non-human paragon....hrm. Not sure that would work very well.
I'd like more non-human heroes so my party doesn't get affected as much by disease all the damn time, and Zhed annoys the ever-loving crap out of me. I guess that's what Vekk is for.
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Nov 26, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58
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#4
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage]
Profession: R/
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WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.
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Nov 26, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14
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#5
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my own mind
Guild: The Dragon Exchange
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the savage nornbear
WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.
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WTB Ghostly Paragon Hero..
My idea is better.
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Nov 26, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58
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#6
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)
Profession: A/
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Margonite paragon hero, fits PERfectly to the storyline, because the margonites want thier freedom.
Most of them do, I think.
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Nov 26, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10
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#7
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Ooo, pretty flower
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the savage nornbear
WTB Forgotten Paragon hero. More content is always good.
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Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.
There is room for 4 more professions:
Mesmer
Paragon
Assassin
Ritualist
What I see, in profession to species is:
Mesmer: Tengu (Queztal/Avicara) or Forgotten
Paragon: Margonite (I want The Lost!)
Assassin: Dredge
Ritualist: Forgotten or Tengu (Angchu)
Of course Forgotten/Angchu are mutually exclusive.
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Nov 26, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34
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#8
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my own mind
Guild: The Dragon Exchange
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.
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I am curious as to why the non caster forgotten take on the different form.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Champion
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forgotten_Avenger
it does say that the species is "Enchanted" that might be it however unlike the enchanted, they leave exploitable corpses.
they are definitely separate from the enchanted bow and enchanted swords.
But i agree that a margonite would make the best paragon. with the wings and all. The margonite should also be lvl 24 just because Ive never seen a margonite less than lvl 24.
But having a margonite and a forgotten in your party??? thats a bigger conflict than Gwen and Pyre.
Last edited by daze; Nov 26, 2008 at 05:49 AM // 05:49..
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Nov 26, 2008, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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#9
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: There
Guild: [ToA]
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forgotten mes
margonite paragon
tengu assassin
and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
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Nov 26, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56
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#10
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Riding the spiral
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wind fire and ice
forgotten mes
and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
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Razah is, by story, a demon, not human. But, as I've learned recently while vanquishing, he is considered human by game mechanics and contracts/gives disease as any human would. However, I've never bothered to see if anyone like Pyre/Vekk/Zhed/etc would do the same or not. I think the fact that Razah was in my party and not some strolling NPC might be why he diseased.
On discussion now: Yeah, I've been wanting mroe non-human heroes since Zhed, and Pyre isn't helping any. I'd have a tengu for an assassin, margonite for a paragon, forgotten for a mesmer, and djinn for a ritualist or dervish. Don't know about any others.
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Nov 26, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59
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#11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Prague (GMT +1)
Guild: FTW
Profession: E/
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well, enchanted spëar as para hero...
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Nov 26, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04
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#12
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Ooo, pretty flower
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daze
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The Enchanted are not Forgotten. They are Constructs, like the Jade Armor/Bow and the Shiro'ken. The Enchanted Armors (I call them Enchanted Armor as to not confuse with the Enchanted Weapons in EN) are pieces of armor that were animated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by windfireandice
and for rit,Razah isnt human really so we have a non-human rit,though he does look like a human so i guess another wouldnt hurt,no clue what it would be though..
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Ritualist is needed to finish the "3 of each profession" concept. And however much I like Razah, we need a true non-human. Not a demonic entity that is extremely like a human that is also considered human by game mechanics.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
However, I've never bothered to see if anyone like Pyre/Vekk/Zhed/etc would do the same or not. I think the fact that Razah was in my party and not some strolling NPC might be why he diseased.
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They don't, same with Jora and Odgen I think, and like Talon.
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Nov 26, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52
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#13
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood
Profession: E/
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/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
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Nov 26, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34
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#14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe]
Profession: Me/Mo
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I really don't think we need more heroes honestly, given that we can only use three out of the huge number of them we already have...
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Nov 26, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37
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#15
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
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Yeah, that.
Btw, why do fanboys tend to ruin a thread?
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Nov 26, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10
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#16
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my own mind
Guild: The Dragon Exchange
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
The Enchanted are not Forgotten. They are Constructs, like the Jade Armor/Bow and the Shiro'ken. The Enchanted Armors (I call them Enchanted Armor as to not confuse with the Enchanted Weapons in EN) are pieces of armor that were animated.
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Enchanted dont leave exploitable corpses.. The forgotten champion and forgotten avenger do.
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Nov 26, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52
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#17
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Jungle Guide
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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper11025
Margonite paragon hero, fits PERfectly to the storyline, because the margonites want thier freedom.
Most of them do, I think.
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I would then start using a para hero in my team ^^
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Nov 26, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51
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#18
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Underworld Spelunker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]
Profession: E/
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Same goes all the way arround.
For each profession, there should be:
- 1 human male
- 1 human female
- 1 non-human.
So, what's left?
- Human female Warrior.
- Human female elementalist.
- Forgotten One Mesmer.
- Dredge Ritualist. They are a short-sighted race, almost blind. Blind fits ritualist.
- Tengu Assassin. Sharp claws.
- Undead or Margonite Paragon.
With that, we'll get 1 hero for each non-primary attribute of every profession, and it would be perfect then.
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Nov 26, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Won't work. Forgotten are caster-only.
There is room for 4 more professions:
Mesmer
Paragon
Assassin
Ritualist
What I see, in profession to species is:
Mesmer: Tengu (Queztal/Avicara) or Forgotten
Paragon: Margonite (I want The Lost!)
Assassin: Dredge
Ritualist: Forgotten or Tengu (Angchu)
Of course Forgotten/Angchu are mutually exclusive.
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Well he would obviously be a rebellious "forgotten?" that got kicked out of Caster Academy for shouting and throwing sticks at the other students. He then was forced to join up with humans to prove his worth and that Forgotten can be rough and tough physical characters to.
^gay
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Nov 26, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16
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#20
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: I live in Panda Land. It's wonderful.
Guild: PLU (Panda Lovers UNITED)
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
/Notsigned as long as we can only use 3 heroes at a time.
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We still can't have 3-paragon, 3-mesmer, 3-assassin, 3-ritualist hero teams o.o
I really don't care about races.
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